it feels like every smash game where there's a sizable competitive scene has one character that's just completely broken. melee has fox, brawl has meta knight, smash 4 has bayonetta--who's the equivalent for ultimate?

Not sure if there's one for 64 either

@Felthry worth noting that, while fox is #1 in melee, it's not a huge gap between fox and falco (in fact, there are top players who argue that falco is better)

marth is not too far behind either, and also i've heard people make the argument that jigglypuff might be the best in a tournament setting (least susceptible to giving up stocks to bad inputs due to nerves/cold/whatever else). but i don't know how much of that is just salt (no one likes fighting jigglypuff)

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@monorail is jigglypuff good for anything other than rest or is rest just *that* broken?

@Felthry her recovery is really good, iirc floaties are harder to combo, bair is a fucking nightmare to deal with

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