is a "kitchen" also a name for some kind of appliance in the uk? because we just saw an anecdote, marked as happening in the UK, about someone "getting the wrong kitchen delivered" and that sentence just does not parse as making any sort of sense to me
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@noiob ...you don't???
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@noiob so what, the house just comes with an empty room and you have to turn it into a kitchen yourself???
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@Felthry yeah, or you buy your predecessor's kitchen
@Felthry people usually stay in one place for so long that it doesn't really matter, and it allows them to choose the configuration they want
@Felthry but yeah, with people moving more often the trend goes towards leaving the kitchen where it is
@noiob so i'm assuming here that "kitchen" refers to the whole array of cabinets+stove+oven+refrigerator+sink+microwave??
it feels weird to us that you wouldn't just take the one the house already has in it when you move in
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@Felthry well, it's not included, you're expected to take it with you when you move out, or sell it to the next person if they want it
@noiob that feels like a huge hassle, because it's a lot of large appliances to move that may well not end up fitting in the new place
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@noiob or do you just have some standardized dimensions for an oven and refrigerator?
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@Felthry to an extent, yeah
@noiob @Felthry if memory serves all standard ovens are either 50cm wide, or 60cm wide (that's the one with one or two ovens, regardless of whether they have a built in hob or not) and are either free standing (hob included on top) or built-in (hob separate as it's intended to be fitted into a unit).
Range cookers are similar, in that they come in, I think, either 100cm wide or 110cm I think
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@Felthry it is a thing that people sometimes do to "replace the kitchen" i.e. order & install a whole matching replacement set of cupboards/oven/etc at once. but if not that then im as confused as you
@Felthry That sounds, with minimal context, like meal delivery? Possibly a colloquialism.
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@squirrellilly a european friend has implied that it's the norm in europe to just... move all the kitchen appliances including the refrigerator and stove and stuff with you when you move?? which feels weird to us because who moves out of a house and takes the stove with them, what are you going to do with two stoves, and yours probably won't fit the spot the original was in anyway
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@Felthry Most houses don't come furnished, and transporting appliances is cheaper than buying brand new ones.
@squirrellilly In our experience (our family moved a lot as a kid) the kitchen always had an oven, stove, dishwasher, sink, and usually a microwave and refrigerator too, when we moved in
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@Felthry That's never been my experience, seeing a house listed as having full furnishings and appliances is extremely rare and reserved for, like, 6 figure and higher homes, places we can't even dream of ever affording.
@Felthry oh right, Americans buy houses with the kitchens built into them