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@LexYeen well in the process of trying to figure out where the hell the receiver for that mouse ended up, we found the one we'd lost, so.... problem solved?

no idea where that other one is, but the mouse it goes with doesn't work anymore anyway
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@LexYeen sorry, i realize you probably don't know, i shouldn't be asking you to be customer support
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@LexYeen we've had like five other logitech mice in the past, is there any way one of the receivers from those could work?
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@LexYeen oh, and they say "therea re no spare parts available for this product", so i guess we're out of luck
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@LexYeen ...$15 is what we paid for the whole keyboard and mouse set
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@LexYeen Is there any way we can get one today, or is that the kind of thing you have to order online? i would love if we could just go to the local supermarket's electronics department and get one
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is there anything that can be done if you lose the usb thingy for a wireless mouse and keyboard?
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re: traffic posting 

@rey "tried being cute"?
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re: Kos's hall of infamy: Media that fucked up so bad you just have to finish it to see how bad it gets. 

@Draekos Fair enough! 3 is just one of those things that's infamous for a particular plot twist that's not only *really bad* in concept, but also really poorly executed
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@Tathar That's true of any two programming languages too, though. Or any two natural languages!
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@Tathar Probably not? Splitting stuff into files is usually more for organization than anything, it wouldn't cause an error unless you forgot an include statement somewhere
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@Tathar Sorry, we don't know anything about verilog.
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re: Kos's hall of infamy: Media that fucked up so bad you just have to finish it to see how bad it gets. 

@Draekos Would you consider Star Ocean 3 on this list, or was its fuckup just too bad even for that?
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re: reforming and defunding policing - discussing the perspective of the opposition 

@ziphi It's good that there's more nuance to it. We're not super familiar with the details of the arguments, so perhaps I shouldn't have said anything like we were.

I suppose the main problem is probably still manipulative politicians. Someone says "vote for X to make Y not happen" when Y wasn't happening to begin with, nor would it have started to happen if X didn't win, and voting for X just makes Z happen instead, where Z is something the politician may want but the public doesn't

It feels like a lot of people are just being manipulated in general to enact policies that are against their best interests
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slightly long, capitalism rendering socialist thought hard to understand 

@LexYeen We understand it well now, just, we grew up where capitalism was just taken for granted and alternatives never even mentioned except "the ussr was communist" (with no explanation of what that means or that they, uh, kinda weren't in any meaningful way) (sometimes china and/or cuba got mentioned too but never more than a mention and the implication of badness)

capitalism conflates private and personal property into the same thing in all its rhetoric, and that makes it hard to understand when someone says "we should get rid of private property" and "private property" means to you "all my clothes and books and video game collection", even though to the speaker it means "industrial equipment, housing, land, and that sort of stuff"

it's like this one time we tried to get our mom to understand that viola is pronounced /vioɫə/, not /violə/, but she couldn't wrap her head around the difference between /l/ and /ɫ/ because those are considered the same sound in english
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re: Politics and attack ads, Georgia 

@ziphi what really gets us about the arguments against defunding police is, even if you accept (we don't, but that's another matter) that there are "good people" who need to be helped and "bad people" who need to be hurt, why would you prioritize hurting "bad people" over helping "good people"

that's just a foreign concept to us
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