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@makyo so I guess we can empirically say that the e621 community is pretty subby?

@thingywott I do kind of wish there was a better place for this stuff, where it would maybe have a wider audience and contribute more to ongoing speculation/threads.

But like, without dealing with large internet rando communities, especially in games.

@thingywott so yeah, when you fight an enemy in the dark world, they just get scared off and flee from battle.

And yeah, small differences leading up to the end are that some of the NPCs hanging around the castle don't think very much of you, and don't come to your aid during the fight with King Dad.

@thingywott yeah, my default privacy is set to "unlisted" because just, in general, I'm mostly here to interact with people I know. I'm not to keen on posting to a shared timeline by default.

Also helps because:
a) I'm not great at knowing what to CW, and when
b) worried about the twitter xposter posting a tweet that should have a CW, but twitter doesn't support those, so...

@thingywott yeah, I've done it both ways. There are some minor differences in how the endgame in the dark world plays out, but the end result is the same, and I don't think the light world changes at all.

Also, no matter which way you go, I don't think there's any way to gain EXP

Two threads recur here - often in DELTARUNE, options are presented to you in the form of "Something" and "Do not" - I think in all of these cases, and I need to confirm this, it doesn't matter which one you pick, the thing happens anyway.

"Do not" to not to playing JEVIL's game? "You're already playing"

"Do not" to opening the locked cell? The key reacts automatically.

So we see repetition of the "do not" and "removal of choice" themes from one of UNDERTALE's endings

Sorry if I'm being insufferable about this. But one more deltarune thread for the night: "Do not" and the removal of choice.

In UNDERTALE, the stabby ending ends with the choice to destroy all of existence ("ERASE") or not do that ("DO NOT").

But at this point, it doesn't actually matter what you choose - the First Human has already taken over. If you try to choose not to end the world, you get dialogue like "DO YOU THINK YOU'RE THE ONE IN CONTROL HERE" and it ends anyway

At the very least, I'd have expected the three kings to at least *recognise* him if he was a dark world prince, even if he's not actually a card suit.

I'm specifically noting hearts here, because Ralsei claims to be a prince, and wears heart iconography. His whole story of "I've lived here my entire life waiting for you" is shaky at best, and actually contradicts his own legend that "Three heroes appear at the world's end"

Also, I don't even think he's a Darkner:

So, I think Ralsei's persona is probably fake? In every other card suit, the creatures look the same. Lancer looks a lot like his dad, the King. The low and high tier diamond/heart enemies look alike, as do their respective kings (see image).

Ralsei does not - you can specifically see the King of Hearts here, who looks totally in line with the hearts archetype. Which is not Ralsei.

My internal clock is so messed up that the DST change didn't even register as a thing this year.

I uh, hope the deltarune semi-spam isn't too irritating here. I just need a place to dump it so I get it out of my own head, and I really don't want to interact with like, reddit communities or whatever. ESPECIALLY ones that sprung up around video games.

You couldn't pay me to.

When you first arrive in the dark world, Kris' description is different.

@ticky god
damn it

Hey, I'm just saying, it's logically consistent for phone-ablo to be (almost certainly) exploitative with its mtx model, and simultaneously for people complaining about it to be entitled pricks throwing a tantrum because a soulless megacorp didn't pander to their exact desires

Hmm!
"Quiet Autumn" is a very very similar song to UNDERTALE's "Quiet Water"

I actually don't think there's a lot more to say about that, just... a similar song occupying a similar space in the plotline. Recurring narrative structure, maybe?

Oh, whoa, there's The Circus theme again in "Empty Town"

I don't think it's a particularly big revelation or anything, since we already know Seam and JEVIL are connected, but I do like that Seam's theme ("Lantern") contains JEVIL's theme ("The Circus") as a background melody.

@thingywott another (admittedly really shaky) thing I noticed was that out of all the tracks, I think that verse repeats most aggressively in "Field of Hopes and Dreams" and the "THE WORLD REVOLVING" (JEVIL), so there could definitely be some dual meaning there. I don't think Toby does *anything* by accident when it comes to the soundtrack

@thingywott yeah, exactly. The "don't forget" verse is repeated over and over through the whole soundtrack, so it's obviously an important theme.

At first glance, I took it to be like, reassuring - Ralsei being like, "hey, don't forget, I'm here for you buddy!"

But then like, you've got the Chara interpretation. Reminding you that they're still in there. And then they take over in the dead of night (dark) and tear your SOUL out. So.