I just don't know how to argue with someone that you should care about people, and if you truly care about people, you listen to them.
That's nto to say "listen" as in "follow what they tell you", but like, "This is the pain I go through, I don't think you understand, this is my situation, this is my *life*."
So many are willing to say "Oh, I had a small experience I can say was like yours" Like, "I felt bad once, you just get over it" to someone with chronic depression. How do you even respond? It's like, "I appreciate that you felt bad, and I'm sure that was hard for you, but this is *REALLY* hard for me, and I don't have the mental energy to argue for you understanding that, I'm actually a little desperate for self care and this is my free time."
@Ulfra_Wolfe Man, I struggled with that crowd -- and my internal copies of them -- for so fucking long before I finally broke down, did the research, and made the scientific case to myself once and for all that they're full of shit. It was totally worth the trouble and I highly recommend the process, because it feels GREAT to see these people run their mouths off and finally feel nothing but the urge to shake my head. *hug*
@zebratron2084 Awww. *Hugs back!*
I'm actually really interested in being able to do that, really. I lack willpower, though, eventually my wrath takes over, Snarl comes out, and I'm just like "Oh my gosh, you are either VERY dense and I just don't know how to get through that density, or you're being deliberately disingenuous for some reason I can't discern!"
@Ulfra_Wolfe I was just talking with Peg about this. My geo job has helped a LOT, because I get to deal all day with people who are painfully confused and agonizingly lazy, yet doing their best and not really harming anybody. That, and the remaining guilt from putting Buni off so badly, have given me a REAL strong motive to learn to deal with things at the root level, not "oh my god, how could you think this" but "okay, that's lovely, but here, let me show you what *I* found looking into this."
@Ulfra_Wolfe This does not mean by any stretch that I have yet been reliably successful at applying this in daily life, to things I actually care about _more_ than whether, say, Hanoi counts as both a province and an urban district. ;)
@zebratron2084 Well, maybe there's a door that can bridge the two! For whatever works for your own personal path. I find ways of looking at this material world through the lens of what which shaped me.
@zebratron2084 I mean, I don't know why I'm saying that, you've been doing that with your various sonas.
@Ulfra_Wolfe Yeah I was just grasping for something vaguely intelligent to say in response, and I was thinking of going with something like, "Well, what I'm mostly doing these is giving myself as much aposematic coloring as possible to warn potential debate partners that while I consider myself a Civilized Being, I might still attempt to bite off their heads if they back me into a corner." I'm not necessarily proud of this half-measure of a solution but it works until I actually achieve Zen n.n;
@Ulfra_Wolfe Rezeya and Enmerkar are both their own special flavors of "this person is not going to be impressed with your bullshit and has a shameful history of eating people they are not impressed with -- but you will not be the first, nor the last, of them who richly deserved it. And they'd really rather NOT eat you, because damn, that's just proven so inconvenient in the past." n.n;
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@zebratron2084 See, just alter that a little bit and change things around like size difference, and I'm suddenly wanting to take a fragment of that into a more pleasant fantasy. But then the eating is just temporary.
