why do people insist on shoehorning mandatory stealth parts into games with very basic stealth systems #BreathOfTheWild

okay maybe I just suck at stealth but why not give me a realistic option of just fighting through it?

@noiob it's weird because the game I've played with the best stealth system (METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN [sic]) also has a wonderful fighting system and handles the transition between the two very realistically

like, botw is mostly better than the phantom pain for Kojima reasons but that Kojima second-to-second gameplay is spectacular

@bonzoesc oh yeah, I only played Ground Zeroes so far and the first time I beat the mission I got spotted near the end and barely made it out and it felt so cool

@bonzoesc Zelda kinda feels like they're trying to give the player the bare minimum of a system each time, like there's a handful of combat moves but every fight is basically the same or there's different weapons but within the four or so categories they basically handle the same

@bonzoesc there's a horse taming system but all you gotta do is push the button every time your horse acts up

@bonzoesc and it's fine, right? The game isn't about each single system, and it doesn't rely on them too much

@noiob yeah, and that's why it feels brilliant; you can generally get a feel for how the systems work and will react to your actions

@bonzoesc but this stealth challenge just makes me feel bad, like I can wing the puzzles I don't fully understand but this is very clear about not allowing me to do that

@noiob yeah if you're in the part I think you are (north of the Weird About Presentation of Gender Desert) that dungeon is kinda blah

@bonzoesc just made it through! and I think everything's been said about that fucken desert

@noiob bless the shark that's a hunk and the bird that's a jerk tho