please can someone just give us some kind of help here
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@Felthry I don't have any ideas 🙁 aside from maybe a format, I have had an issue with some game just never working for me due to some ingrained OS issue

@sharkNserg i don't wnat to lose any data on here though, even just settings, getting windows set up is extremely spoons-intensive, increasingly so as windows 10 does its windows 10 stuff

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@Felthry check files, disable steam overlay, disable EAC

@noiob steam overlay is one we haven't tried yet
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@noiob Blf, still didn't work
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@Felthry did you try launching it as admin?

@noiob yeah
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@noiob we've tried just about everything we can find online short of getting a new graphics card
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@Felthry I've seen some gaming news articles claiming that the Epic Games launcher itself can cause problems with Elden Ring, and that updating (or if that doesn't work, removing) the Epic Games launcher might fix it. Here's one of the many sources I've seen for that: https://windowsreport.com/elden-ring-pc-white-screen/

@LexYeen yeah, we uninstalled that too, that was the first thing we tried
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@Felthry Ugh. Suck.

I've also got a list of known bugs and launch issues, and some of them sound like your problem. https://www.windowscentral.com/elden-ring-known-bugs-and-launch-issues

And here's a set of troubleshooting steps others have found useful, in the event something on it is something you haven't tried. https://whatifgaming.com/how-to-fix-the-elden-ring-crash-at-launch-issue-on-pc/

@Felthry And I just found another set of troubleshooting steps which mentions that the game requires Visual C++ redistributables, which no others I've seen have mentioned, so that *might(????)* be worth looking into. Here's that guide: https://www.ghostarrow.com/how-to-fix-elden-ring-wont-launch-crashing

@LexYeen actually that second link in your last post suggested that, which we're currently trying to do -F

@Felthry Ahhh, I guess I glossed over that! My mistake.

@LexYeen also ghhhh, update windows

we've disabled that since we got this computer in 2018 because fuck all the stuff microsoft kept adding to windows 10 to make it worse
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@LexYeen i'm not even sure how to turn it back on to update properly but i'll at least run the updater for the security updates we didn't disable
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@Felthry Good plan, and definitely worth looking into re-enabling windows update at least long enough to bring the system up to current patch levels. There's no telling what kind of back-end changes could be fucking with trying to run Elden Ring.

@LexYeen well we did the update and elden ring still doesn't work and also the steam link doesn't stream right anymore, it's showing the entire image from the monitor instead of just the window it's supposed to be showing
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@LexYeen so now we have two problems instead of one
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@LexYeen okay we got the steam link problem fixed
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@Felthry Blaaargh. I wish I had more to offer!

@LexYeen thank you for the help at least
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@Felthry RockPaperShotgun has a few suggestion here: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/elden-ring-players-share-possible-fixes-for-technical-problems

Disabling "Easy Anti-Cheat" is something mentioned there that we haven't seen you mention

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@packbat that was something we've tried and didn't work, but thank you
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@Felthry oof - gotcha

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@Felthry sometimes launching the game from the command prompt will show error/diagnostic messages pushed to stderr or stdout

I don't know if that's ever actually helped me solve a problem before, but it might give you a clue

(usually there's a flood of warnings about some graphics functionality not being implemented that turns out to not be relevant)