uspol
Okay; so I come from a background which seems similar to a lot of the right wing kids (feeling told other people are more special than you, sex presented as a dumb competition, brutal public schools, no future, whitewashed history and institutional bigotry etc). I’m still not sure how I went a different direction; generation and internet access? Leaving the state? At some level always being aware I was marginalized and this was bullshit? There’s gotta be something useful to hand these kids.
uspol
@Leucrotta i think that comes from a sense of entitlement. Feeling like you are owed something when you really aren't and not offering anything in return that is of equal value.
@Leucrotta It seems to come down to utter objectification - somehow, they wind up feeling that women (and they can’t even bring themselves to use the vocabulary of the rest of the Anglophone world) are cheating them by not fulfilling some kind of prescribed role in life that involves lusting after any and all men, thereby placing the uninterested in the wrong, not themselves. We Hunted the Mammoth is a good site for such matters.
uspol
@Leucrotta i have definitely known both nerds who had self-esteem problems but were nice, and nerds who seemed like they believed they not only were being unfairly denied sex, but that they deserved sex with a specific type of woman (thin, conventionally attractive, compliant, devoted to them). i'm honestly not sure what sends people down one path and not the other. might just be personality differences?
uspol
The part I don’t get, if my background *is* similar, is the incel thing. I came out of Georgia thinking my failure to be some major stud getting laid all the time, was due to me being an utterly terrible piece of shit with nothing to offer.
Are these kids running around fronting for Queerness and/or really poor self esteem? Because even if so, how do you get from shitty indoctrination like mine, to a place where you’re murderously angry at an entire gender because they ain’t fucking you?