trans discourse, dysphoria
Re: https://witches.town/users/SoniEx2/updates/469354
I don't feel like my parts are wrong "because folks insists they are" and the implications there is one of the most disgusting takes I've heard in a while. It's absolutely insulting to hear someone insist that all of the pain I'VE felt would just go away if people "stopped telling me that my body is wrong".
trans discourse, dysphoria
This is a prime example of like
hey,
if this is your lived experience and that's how you feel about yourself that's like… fine. But don't start assuming that this is how everyone experiences things, else you say insultingly generalized things based on your own biased experience that makes me snarly as fuck.
trans discourse, dysphoria
it's one thing to go "hey this is how my dysphoria works and this is how I've conceptualized it" and another to go "dysphoria is this definition and I am now implying that folks who feel dysphoria must be feeling it for these reasons [only], and folks who fall outside this definition are wrong."
Just ugh
trans discourse, dysphoria
@Oneironott I admit, I read their take and I think I get what they're saying, but it's a far cry from "this is my mental model" to "this is a universal maxim."
trans discourse, dysphoria
@literorrery that ambiguity, then, is a problem. I guess it depends if you take that post inherently as this as being their personal, subjective view or not. Generally, when someone is talking about what "dysphoria is", over what it is "to them" tends to strike me as them thinking about more than just their own personal experience
trans discourse, dysphoria
@literorrery either way I guess I don't know what they meant by it, but I can extrapolate that enough folks boosting it probably meant it as true in their own experiences
trans discourse, dysphoria
@Oneironott As Depeche Mode said, "[Words] can only do harm." I see the pain and upset you're feeling, at least. Both at the dysphoria and the post.
trans discourse, dysphoria
@literorrery linguistic glitches, on a person level, make me feel so crushingly alone even amongst others, because it highlights the subjectiveness of my own view of self in a way that hurts a lot. That no one can ever see me quite the way I want then to see me, because they can't know my relation to all of it like I do.
It's such an existentially crushing feeling to me that not only will this dysphoria never alleviate… it will never truly be understood.
trans discourse, dysphoria
@literorrery is an incredibly dangerous thought path for me to go down, and is probably why I react so viscerally to things like this
trans discourse, dysphoria
@Oneironott I can see that. I can't say I understand what it's like to be you, or anyone else, but I can absolutely say i understand the existential soul-crushing dread of knowing you're trapped and alone with your qualia. I think it's one of the biggest motivators behind making music, taking drugs, having sex. I think we seek communion with the divine and with each other. I think we're all trying to escape the sense of alienation that consciousness creates.
trans discourse, dysphoria
@Oneironott I may not understand anybody else's qualia, but I can say for sure that I understand what it's like to know mine are isolated from everyone else's. That's a connection I can easily share.
trans discourse, dysphoria
@literorrery for what it is worth… every thing inhabiting your qualia is something I love and cherish being near, whether I know it's contents true or not…
trans discourse, dysphoria
@Oneironott You, in all your facets, are wondrous, Vloelei. We cherish and honor and value and _want_ you, for who you are, all that you are, here and now. We're very glad you're here, all of us.
trans discourse, dysphoria
@literorrery it still draws out my inevitable "ugh, is this what they think I'm experiencing because this could not be not wrong" worries
Language it tough