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"It's wrong to shit on mothers for having crying children on airplanes! We need to accept children in shared spaces!"

Sure, good! I agree! Let's be more understanding of each other!

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@Mous The deeper problem is that there is no shared space which can accommodate everyone. There is no universally accepting shared space, because we don't all need the same things. The only universally accommodating environment is one that gives everyone their own bubble and the ability to decide with what and whom to interact.

So, the real question is: who are we prioritizing, and who are we choosing to exclude?

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@literorrery I agree that it's not possible to perfectly accommodate absolutely everyone, but it really steams me to see legitimate problems people face dismissed as people being "just difficult".

Is there a solution that leaves both infants and people with auditory processing problems 100% happy on a six hour flight together? No, but if we're communicative with each other and accept other people's needs as valid we might be able to reach a medium that makes it at least tolerable.

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@literorrery (A bit of added context, this was all prompted by a thread of parents /against/ people giving out earplugs when taking a newborn on a long flight, because it suggests that children crying is an imposition on a shared space.)

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@Mous ... that... does not seem such a useful position to take.

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@literorrery Yeah it's..... not great. I can understand not wanting a societal expectation of "new parents spend additional money to make others more comfortable", because babies are pretty expensive to begin with? But "parents shouldn't be obligated to do this" and "parents doing this is inherently bad" are such vastly different takes.

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