i genuinely don't understand how youtube as a company makes a profit
are there really that many people using the site without adblock? I feel like it's gotta be less than 10% of people
@gmsh most people use Youtube through the phone app or their TV
Ibly 🏳️⚧️ 
@noiob @gmsh yeah like, that's what i was thinking
it's because i use youtube on mobile and TV so much that i went out of my way to convince my parents to get us all premium, since it's much easier than having to fiddle with an adblocker that's network wide (yes, pihole exists, yes, i've tried it, no, it's not good for my use-cases anyways)
@EeveeEuphoria @gmsh on android and google tv you can get modified apps with ad blockers
@EeveeEuphoria @gmsh don't care who makes them as long as they work lol
@EeveeEuphoria I mean your bank app shouldn't contain your bank details
@EeveeEuphoria and unless you're rooted apps can't affect each other
@noiob tell me why all the reports about any malware on android ever talk about how bank details get stolen
@EeveeEuphoria idk I run a current security patch, I don't really read those. I'm guessing stuff like autofill?
@EeveeEuphoria I'm not saying you shouldn't be worried I'm saying I'm not particularly worried
@noiob 2 seconds of googling tells me "Xenomorph" can get bank details from up to 300 apps
and just simple inference tells me they can steal this info by you just logging into your bank, which'd happen because... you log into your bank on your phone, then once it's in, the malware just snoops and steals the data
even on the latest security version, there's a lot you can do, especially when you have to use an app that does shit like patching another entire app
@EeveeEuphoria @noiob that's because it requests accessibility settings, which android warns you to not to do for apps you don't trust
@twi @noiob yeah like, that one app i'm still struggling to remember the name of does want access for it, does it not?
and more to the point, the original post was about how the majority of people don't use adblockers, do we want people installing this stuff and making the idea of changing apps normal, especially with shady APKs lol
@EeveeEuphoria @twi idk you can't really get a non-shady patched youtube app lol, I just don't wanna give them money
@EeveeEuphoria @twi yeah I suggested getting a really cheap piece of hardware that turns any tv into a thing that runs android apps
@twi @EeveeEuphoria which I don't accept for youtube revanced
@EeveeEuphoria @noiob revanced is open source???
@EeveeEuphoria @noiob ???????? since always ????? https://github.com/revanced
@EeveeEuphoria @noiob i think you're thinking of Vanced (dead), not Revanced
@twi @noiob well yeah then, youtube vanced is the shady shit one made by cryptobros
youtube revanced being open source does make it look more legit, and trustworthy, but still the idea of patching an APK doesn't sound great to me
i don't think anything would go wrong with it, but idk, something about it has always seemed off to me
@twi @noiob regardless of all this the reason i got premium was to use it on switch and xbox
you can't patch the switch and xbox, and to bring this up again no i'm not using pihole, nor will i ever since i used it and didn't like it
...and yes i don't have a switch nor xbox anymore, but my parents are paying for it so why would i purposefully ask them to make things harder for me
@EeveeEuphoria @noiob (theorycrafting) one could make an xbox dev mode app that uses invidious apis or something similar to make their own app though
@EeveeEuphoria @noiob i mean i suppose if you have someone else paying for it do w/e lmao
@noiob ???
how... how the hell else do they work?
@EeveeEuphoria I mean they get a token from the server that's only for the app
@noiob my bank app literally only works on android because any other bank i sign up for tells me "lol you don't have a consistent income, get bent asshole"