Mastometa question, comparison to birdsite
Do we have a problem with Mastodon celebrities like Twitter did?
I am always worried about falling into twitters pitfalls and to some degree I think it's unavoidable but that's why I want a culture of friendliness when possible here and that's gotten really hard lately I feel like so this feels like an important question to ask
Mastometa conclusion
thanks for replying to this everyone
i think i'm feeling a lot better about this, as the tools that foster a toxic celebrity environment are a lot more neutered here :ok_hand:
Mastometa question, comparison to birdsite
@Gargron people who are too culturally significant to the platform to ignore and end up attracting an unsustainable amount of followers
Mastometa question, comparison to birdsite
@Gargron nah that doesn't mean you shouldn't be a part of the discussion
it's contextually different for you - as the primary developer and leader of the platform that's a pretty natural thing to have happen - but I recognize that you do try to contribute to the friendliness and kindness of the platform, so this isn't necessarily oriented towards you
but in general i just worry when there are people with tons of followers and few follow backs
Mastometa question, comparison to birdsite
@Gargron mostly because when you concentrate lots of people like this you end up with popular cliques of people who effectively end up owning a lot of cultural context around certain circles despite the fact that they themselves don't intentionally interact with those people
too much cultural power given to people who don't engage in the broader community but instead "hand down", for lack of a better way to put it
Mastometa question, comparison to birdsite
@Gargron i'm not asking for an answer
i'm asking if it's becoming a problem at all yet
Mastometa question, comparison to birdsite
I'm not exactly sure if this is what you mean, but I feel like, there IS an issue with people like, that have such a large following, even when blocked it's hard to totally ignore them. The occasional retooted reply showing up, giving you the latest drama, for instance.
(It just occurred to me I could filter usernames, but that doesn't necessarily solve said problem)
Mastometa conclusion
@vahnj Could we ask, what do you mean by toxic celebrity environment? We never used birdsite, and we are fairly ignorant of celebrities in general.
Mastometa conclusion
@Rosemary the main thing off the top of my head is celebrities developed a culture of quote tweets to push visibility into responses with toxic folks
there's not a good mechanism for doing that here, and on top of that the general culture of mastodon tries to engage in actual arguments more politely
there's a slight problem with how discourse works in general but people aren't rude to other folks when they're tossing their views up like that and that's my main worry point
Mastometa conclusion
@Rosemary this is not really a particular response to any one person, but rather that i'm kinda just worrying in general about this, since celebrities tend to have a lot more cultural power around how this stuff develops, hence my worry about celebrities
Mastometa question, comparison to birdsite
@vahnj I *think* the decentralization makes it a lot harder. That and how hard it is to really tally likes or boosts, it’s harder to quantify popularity.
Mastometa question, comparison to birdsite
More than just friendliness, but kindness too