i think

for games that make heavy use of the dpad, and especially games originally on the snes, the 8bitdo SN30 pro+ might just be the best controller on the market

the added grips, replaceable battery, and analog shoulder buttons really improved it over the SN30 pro

but for games that use mostly the left analog stick, secondarily the right analog stick, and don't need much in the way of d-pad controls, the gamecube controller is still superior

@Felthry you're really gonna ignore that the Dualshock has always been superior for both?

@noiob Honestly the dualshock has never felt great to us

the analog sticks feel too loose, and the d-pad is just not as good as that of the 8bitdo and the SNES controller it's based on

still miles better than the 360 or gamecube dpads though.

@Felthry I like Sony's D-pads better than Nintendo's. The sticks get pretty loose as they wear out but new ones are nice

@noiob oh is that true? maybe we've never had a non-worn-out dualshock then, we've only ever had used sony systems