the Hearth @Felthry@awoo.space

@Kye that's a good question, i am also wondering that now
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we have two pictures we've seen recentlyish that we really want to get printed and framed but

- we don't know how to go about doing that (i guess take it to a fedex office and ask?)
- we need to ask the artist of one of them for permission (the other has already given us permission)

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@noiob we've heard the pronunciation of it as if it were its own word from a number of native english speakers so i don't think it's that connected with whether you're a 1L or 2L or 73L english speaker (are there any 73L english speakers in the world i wonder? that would mean for one thing you know at least 73 languages which is a Lot, and on top of that for some reason you waited until the 73rd to learn english, which is a pretty major language)
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@patchwork two other people have said that too! it didn't occur to us
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we were not expecting to be in the minority on this, we pronounce it like the first syllable of "character"
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@Kaffe@chitter.xyz what, did they cancel it?
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@ziphi aw, i hope not--we still have mastodon.art blocked and aren't comfortable unblocking it yet, even though we've been told it's changed ownership
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@starkatt we can do 0603s and SOT223s just fine with the iron we use at work (which is a really nice micro iron from weller, 0603s would be awful with an fx-888d or something) but 0402 would be nice. The main thing we're interested in is QFN and thermal pads, but it sounds like it could make things easier for SSOP, QFP, and MSOP too

i think we will look into this
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@starkatt oh yeah out of curiosity what kinds of packages have you been able to solder with it? have you done anything with a big thermal pad? or something really hard to do by hand like QFN or something?
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@starkatt ah, that one doesn't go up high enough?

for soldering with an iron you can usually use the same station for either because it's adjustable (or in some cases like metcal or weller's magnestat--both of which are *really cool systems* by the way--you only need to change the tip, not the station), so it didn't occur to us that that might be a limitation with hot air

unless you use a bismuth solder i guess, but bismuth solder sucks
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@starkatt and yeah we're not looking for ideal, because the ideal probably costs like $10k and we're not going to be getting that for ourselves or convincing our boss to get it for work

but good enough is fine
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@starkatt that soldering station looks like a rebranded Yihua, and Yihua are usually pretty good for the price point from what we've heard!

i think we'd probably go for different paste, because we prefer to use lead-free when possible, but might try that for initial experiments since 63/37 is always nicer to work with. will have to do some research for what alloys are good for paste because i'm sure it's not the same as for wire solder, but SAC305 is probably fine
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@starkatt do you have any advice for getting into it that might help? We've never really tried at all and I'm not sure what are good tools and the like.
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@starkatt we really ought to try it sometime

it might make things easier for a project we're working on, because Linear apparently decided that it would be fine to have the exposed pad of an MSOP be the chip's *only* ground connection
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@Kaffe@chitter.xyz oh there's also the fact that a lot of video game consoles also play dvds and cds. that was actually a big selling point for the ps2 and ps3 (a used ps3 is still one of the more affordable blu-ray players afawk), but it's not really relevant anymore. but that's held on; people kinda expect to be able to play dvds in a video game console these days (at least i think they do) because of sony and microsoft making consoles that could do that

so if they need an optical drive anyway...
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@Kaffe@chitter.xyz there've been a few moves in that direction, none of which succeeded

there's a certain size limit; if video games were distributed on microsd cards for instance you'd have people losing them all the time, and there's very little room to put any information on what the game is on it too

You could definitely go smaller than a CD though. somewhere between a compactflash card and a 3½" floppy disk would be a good size i think
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@Kaffe@chitter.xyz not enough if you ask us
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@owashii@plush.city i think you have the wrong number-sign-tag-thing there
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@owashii@plush.city okay, just a little disorienting because normally it's obvious because the whole thing happens in a few seconds but these are like minutes later and it's like, didn't we read that already? or is this just really strong deja vu?
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