Vera "Not A Werewolf" Lycaon @Thaminga@awoo.space

@dzuk ah yes, the "let's make all our electronics bright white or shiny black so you can see literally every last dust particle on them" era of design

@zebratron2084 @Oneironott I mean yes, many if not *most* of us are traumatized in some way or another (it kinda comes with being queer in this society, along with the ever increasing amount of abuse leveled at the past three generations or so as kids and young adults), and we absolutely need a way to negotiate with that.

Key word being negotiate. Not center every part of our interactions around it to the point of (re)traumatizing others in the quest to avoid our own problems. I mean shit, I had to deal with this from someone in a completely unrelated Discord server who got banned for tearing into me because I vented about someone outside the server who happened to be this person's friend joined the voice chat using their roommate's microphone and proceeded to make everyone uncomfortable, and to this day they still don't understand at all that the reason they got banned is due to abusive behavior towards others, not because "they wanted to vent while others were venting" and "it's so unfair [I] told [them] to shut up when [they] were trying to get a word in".

@zebratron2084 @Oneironott yeeeeeaaaaah, there's definitely a lot of the social whore-madonna complex that's unfortunately seeped into leftist circles in general, largely as a result of 2016 in particular essentially being "They Live, but in real life"

like, fucking. let people be imperfect, and allow people to try to redeem themselves if they've fucked up

@Oneironott @zebratron2084 ... as someone with a shitton of FL studio projects who works with music basically every day and yet has only released a single song in the past three years or so, yeah, I feel y'all

as for the social thing, honestly I feel like letting discomfort fester and never discussing it until it's way too late, things suddenly explode and people get banished from the community is kind of a Thing in the Seattle-based postfurry scene in general, from what I've seen