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@CoronaCoreanici I feel like I've sorta plateaued, and it probably has something to do with having zero clue what 'good metagame reading' means. XD

@CoronaCoreanici Whoooa, how long did that take you?

I mean, I play every day and I rarely see you on, I think?

That was not rhetorical, I'm actually curious what comes to other folks' minds here! :)

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Perhaps the subjunctive is useful here:

What would it be like, being a creature of artifice, dedicated to working with spirits and their world?

(Your Electric Monk jokes are acknowledged and accepted, please leave them here in this bin outside the door. ;))

@emanate Well, for Magician's Companion I would not WANT an ebook.

I mean, if it was an entire app, the quality of that one cocktail book/app I have, that'd be one thing, but... that's a pretty tall order.

@literorrery "You want to open a ritual, that means you need to ensure X, Y, and Z. This is how the Clockwork Alchemist does it, this is how the Plushie Spiritworker does it" ;)

@literorrery Yeah. I think one thing that's important, Design Pattern style, is to say 'this is the scenario where this is useful' rather than anchoring on specific terms.

Case-study: As a spirits-first practitioner, the focus lots of ceremonial paths put on 'banishing' makes me kinda twitchy. In general it often seems to be talking more about personal cleansing and alignment with the subject of focus, but, y'know, I think it's really useful to call that out.

@emanate Oh right also I haven't read it because there's no ebook.

Can I borrow your copy sometime?

STOP

you, reading this right now, are cute and great

proceed with your life having availed yourself of this truth

@emanate @literorrery Yeah, this is probably one I should read. I've been shying away from it because I have found that pure-theory texts don't give me what I need to work with, but maybe now I have enough grounding of my own to get more out of it?

@literorrery So, what's step 1?

Maybe a list of common magical operations that multiple folks independently write implementations of?

@literorrery That's actually the sort of thing that was on my mind when I said "Can I help?" last night; I want to see a book that has High Invocations of Celestial Spheres, and then, overleaf, cuddly interpersonal plushie-totem spiritwork. ;)

@literorrery Yes. Yesyesyes. 'Case study' nails it perfectly. The most useful books on magic that I ever read, personally, were SPECIFIC. They weren't MY specific, but they showed me how to get to my sort of specific.

I think (I was actually thinking this even before I got to the part of your message that mentioned it) that it'd be fascinating to have one tome that actually went out of its way to line up different specfic ways of doing something.

Woo / Personal 

@emanate This is probably where I should mention that The Showroom (the book I just read) is highly relevant to this train of thought.

Also, *hugs*

Hey it's a pagan article of the day, two days in a row!

paganbloggers.com/critter/blog

This one is actually really relevant to the conversations with @literorrery et all last night!

We grew up with fewer positive interactions with humans, and more time to focus on everything else in the world.

We have to either make our peace with the rejection of family and tradition, or learn to radically reinterpret them.

We have to fight against consensus reality just to express our identities and live our lives.

Queer people are magic.

It's not that we're born with some secret chosen-one destiny.

It's just that we get plenty of practice at it.

Coyote 

@nire@witches.town @KawaSeadrake Yeah I think that makes sense. I don't really see myself as fluid but I've been called it before. Some folks read liminality as fluidity or something?

Coyote 

@nire@witches.town @KawaSeadrake *raises a paw* Yup, mark one more here.

Also Coyote expects me to never use the same pronoun twice in a row when referring to zir. So. Yeah.

We grew up with fewer positive interactions with humans, and more time to focus on everything else in the world.

We have to either make our peace with the rejection of family and tradition, or learn to radically reinterpret them.

We have to fight against consensus reality just to express our identities and live our lives.

Queer people are magic.

It's not that we're born with some secret chosen-one destiny.

It's just that we get plenty of practice at it.

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