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I want to ask people who think qualia aren't real if they've ever been to a good live music show.

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@indi Yes, that is exactly what happened.

drugs, sex 

So, I know the phrase is a boring cliche, but I genuinely am beginning to think that sex, drugs, and music are deeply and fundamentally connected.

It's starting to feel like... like they're all different manifestations of the same fundamental Thing?

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@indi Funny enough, I seem to have had a logical positivist come at me over the post. I tried to genuinely engage, but when they got to the statement of "qualia are pointless", yeah, that's just too big a gap :P

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@grainloom Heh, all right. If you think the notion of qualia is pointless, then that basically stops cold the rest of the argument. I think we're coming from places different enough that I don't know how to reach across the gap.

Take care :)

Does anyone else feel like the process of waking up is a process of collapsing your mind-state from a whole bunch of multiple distinct instances into one singular operating instance?

lewd 

@TipsyTentacle@witches.town So say we all.

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@grainloom Oh, and have you heard of the Mary the Color Scientist thought experiment? If you're unfamiliar with either of those, the wikipedia summaries are good enough for the point I'm trying to make.

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@grainloom So, first off, how familiar are you with the concept of qualia? That's kind of the basis for a lot of my framework, here.

Nsfw 

@TipsyTentacle@witches.town I gotta assume that some folks definitely do, people being people and all

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@grainloom point of curiosity: why come at me with that? You could probably guess that I've heard those arguments before. Hell, I've *made* those arguments before.

inspirobot, drugs 

A real interesting time I had once: repeatedly hitting "refresh" on inspirobot while tripping on mushrooms.

Does anyone have recommended readings on understanding my having a furry identity that clearly runs a lot deeper than it feeling like a costume or surface affectation?

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Lemme post a new OP and then you can boost that? Might be confusing in the context of the whole thread.

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@indi Do you have any reading suggestions that might help me better understand what it means to me to have a particular species identity, beyond it just being a costume?

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@starkatt I think having that conversation when one is saddled with the 'metaphorical' label is important.

I think some folks really do feel it as metaphor and find it valuable, and I want to make sure they're covered and supported too.

What I don't want is folks feeling like 'metaphorical' is _definitional_ for these sorts of identities.

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@indi Also, may I boost this?

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