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@bx oh yeah! that's a nightmare, even in a daw!

i actually legit just have a folder full of me humming music that doesn't exist that i wish did--things that i one day want to transcribe to anything i have the capability and energy to do so

it's....probably going to be a while before i do though, hahah

@bx oh, agreed!

but this is one of the reasons it's hard to start new things without a lot of inspiration--because before you have the mental language and familiarity to articulate your creativity, there can be a loooot of friction to get your ideas into a satisfying enough form you can interact with

@cinnamon pretty good! i have a lot of really interesting things around me and coffee, so i'm basically set

is "forces everything they own to be linux" a personality?

because if it is, i might need to reevaluate some things

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(glances at my phone that's half termux scripts at this point) i'm sure this is shocking information

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this is typically how i linux, and i guess i'm just determined to treat windows like a linux by any means necessary

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@noiob seems like a handy thing to be able to do!

i typically run my desktop system perpetually because i use it pretty extensively through ssh when i'm not physically around

also, have i mentioned that i run approximately everything on the planet at the same time because my brain jumps between hyperfixations a lot?

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oh! if you thought this was an exaggeration, i also have 3 monitors, so the problem is actually worse than you might think!

my current desktops are:

1: lisp things! currently with fennel and scheme shenanigans, possibly seeing how to interop fennel with ruby, and seeing what problems would arise if i removed the global namespace mangler in fennel
2: researching/maybe eventually fixing kiwix-android, the thing that lets you download wikipedia, since it can't open its packaged local files. also kotlin
3: japanese practice, and rom digging
4: my work-work
5: my vm that i host docker things from and test linux contributions. also long-running tunnels and monitors
6: plan 9 research and attempting to figure out how to get various things working on my dedicated plan 9 pi and researching kernel things (kinda empty rn though)

i'm ignoring a lot of other things i have on each desktop, and the meaning of these desktop changes as i start drawing or composing music, or doing more messing around with various projects that interest me

there is also a WSL component underneath all of this that isn't immediately apparent

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me: restarting for updates is such a hassle, i wish windows could just apply them without that

them: restarting isn't so bad

me (with 6 desktops, each with entire running environments, vms, separate creative tools in the middle of projects which take minutes to even start up, and a mountain of carefully curated and placed browser/file manager/terminal windows set up to research and work on something in specific): i guess

@monorail ooooof, it's always fun to realize you were the reason a rule was created

that's totally not a one-way ticket to The Anxiety Zone for people particularly susceptible to that or anything...

@bx as a result, we have a scale for devices with consoles, phones, and tablets being more on the "consumption" side, and computers being more on the "creation" side

but it is often framed more as a separation of "work" and "play" to most people, which reinforces their separation to anyone who doesn't already use computers for leisure

@bx (it doesn't help that there is a skill plateau before creative tools stop being draining and start being relaxing, which further limits their use)

@bx i guess the tl;dr is, energy is limited because of the societal requirements to be productive, and all kinds of creativity are "work" to someone

and because people don't want to do work on the devices they use for play, the tools are less available for hobbyists since the most skilled practitioners of a craft (the otherwise-ideal target audience for those tools) probably do it professionally and don't want to do it in leisure too

@bx computers on the other hand are just...wildcards

they can (and are!) used for all levels of leisure and productivity

however, to a lot of people they are turning into "work machines" as their free time is more spent on other stuff with less potential for turning into work

however, since a lot of creative craft is also "work" to someone, the gears of capitalist productivity dictate that there will be a lot of tools for it--which also happens to be accessible to people with those hobbies

@bx i feel like video games are a fun case, because while they do require effort, that effort is used in the same way as when you get good enough at your craft, where it can be relaxing too!

that means games on a phone are one of the most popular types of app that take up energy people choose to put on their phones, since games are more generally beloved than any specific craft

i feel consoles, which are also extremely geared towards consumption also tap into this despite also requiring energy

@bx oh yeah! i feel like a lot of this comes from the amount of energy that creative things usually require

like, phones and tablets are things most people use for low-energy leisure reasons during short periods of downtime in a day between times they are obligated to use their energy for someone else's ends, so by virtue of numbers, most of the more popular uses of a phone don't really ask for energy

as a result, tools that take energy to use, like creative ones, end up being less common

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