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hey, tarotologists out there, something I'm wondering about -

so if I understand this right, the reading of a card depends on an interpretation of its image?

wouldn't that mean the same spread of cards might read very differently depending on which deck I use? as someone coming from Lenormand, this is mildly troubling

@shoofle that might be fun!

Lenormand is much simpler than tarot, I think - it's only got 36 cards and the meaning is much more symbolic than based on the images on the cards themselves. so you can pick basically any Lenormand deck you want and get the same readings out of them as long as the images are conducive to quickly identifying different cards

@shoofle heeeee

I can't say I'm, like, an expert at Lenormand; I've only done a handful of three-card spreads, nothing really big

in Lenormand - dunno if tarot has something similar - the Grand Tableau is a huge reading with a lot of detail that uses all 36 cards and it's way too complicated for my skill level aaa

@shoofle that's crazy @w@
the GT uses all 36 cards and, like, relates them all to one another? with a bunch of different patterns and it's supposed to tell you a lot about your past and present and future, it's bonkers

I'll stick with three card spreads

@typhlosion many people will say yes. I will say no. The pictures are meant to evoke the feeling that already exists in the way the suit interacts with the number. Original decks had no pictures for the minor arcana. Here's a quick and dirty guide. awoo.space/media/xxxhqOlc_Fmu2 awoo.space/media/KciIsEOdsZHX2

@typhlosion to learn quick, nab a Thoth deck. Each minor actually has a one word description at the bottom of the card so you can simply memorize majors and king Queen knight page and be on your way.

@Fuego @typhlosion I'm gonna differ here but from a somewhat oblique angle. Decks DO have their own opinions/flavors to them that should be taken into account (otherwise, why did you choose that deck, and not just use a random number generator?). Like, concretely, a Thoth deck is gonna present things in a different way from a stock Rider-Waite-Smith

That said, you'll get a lot farther knowing the numerology and letting the pictures 'color' that, rather than just looking at pictures (or words!)

@indi @Fuego oh of course, and that's how I intended to go about learning - learn the meanings and numerology first, and then let myself get a bit more open to letting the pictures color the interpretation

this is much more complicated than learning lenormand was @w@

@typhlosion @Fuego I'm a big proponent of different divination methods for different purposes, personally. And then different decks even for different purposes too!

@indi @typhlosion I like to pick a different deck because I feel like they have different personalities? Like one deck will tell it straight, another will be kinder etc.

The art for sure colors how I feel about what I read and I feel like they tend to give different cards in different situations.

Thats probably crazy but belief is power ;)

@Fuego @typhlosion I have a few stories about my decks acting up. :)

@typhlosion For me I use Tarot for broad life-path "ask the universe" stuff, ogham for personal spiritual matters, and runes when I want to annoy @Fuego. ;)

@typhlosion @Fuego I went for a long time just looking at the pictures and then going back to the book descriptions, but it never clicked at all until I started digging into the numerology that @Fuego presented there (Though I feel like thoes two pages gloss over the 1/2/3 stuff way too much)

I think the single best tarot lesson I ever had was the parts of Alan Moore's Promethea that tour the Major Arcana and then the Tree of Life.

@indi @typhlosion hah yeah hose two pages are a little vague ;) I think likebthe rosicrucian cross explaination is the best? That book I showed is good though as is seventy eight degrees of wisdom.

But for sho its way easier to remember random cards when you have like an architecture of numbers to anchor the ideas too

@typhlosion this is one reason many people can be very picky about what deck they use. But I personally tend to focus more on what a card means to me than the image on it; I think of the specific imagery as more of a potential additional element.

@typhlosion just remembered one of my favorite tarot stories connects to this. The deck I use most often is called the Tarot of the New Vision. When I bought it I thought it was a slight update /variation on the standard Rider-Waite deck. It is... But the variation is that all the images are shown as if the viewer was rotated 180°. Most of the figures are shown from behind, including ones seated on thrones, so all there is to see is a chair back. It's very silly.

@typhlosion the booklet that comes with the deck talks this up as a novel new perspective. But in my head I call it the Butts Deck for hopefully obvious reasons. 😛 So, the art on those cards does influence readings with it, but primarily in that it helps me keep a light attitude and remember that I don't believe anything I can find out through tarot is set in stone.

@typhlosion Decks /very much/ have unique personalities and tend to say different things. One of the biggest pieces of advice I can give is to find a deck that has a metaphor space that's resonant for you personally. There's a /lot/ of decks out there. Look at the art first and some will just... feel right? More resonant?

@typhlosion (Disclaimer: I'm really novice.)
For me, rider-waite-smith feels built for a world very different from the one I live in. There's nothing there for me to grab on to. On the other hand, I started out with Silicon Dawn which is altogether too snarky and has nonstandard card meanings so that might've not been the best play either.

@starkatt Yup yup yup. It took me ages to find my first deck because I had that same feeling about RWS and everything similar to it. Oddly enough, the first one I had, which was a perfect fit at the time, now feels a bit disconnected from where I am too. Haven't actually found one that sits just right with where I'm at now.

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