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@InspectorCaracal@tootplanet.space So, yes, precision in terminology is important, I grant you, but I'm coming at this from the perspective of "conservativism" being used as a _cover_ for bigotry for so long by so many that any attempt to say "we should be able to disambiguate these terms" is going to be met first and foremost with an analysis of how the two are inevitably linked.
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@InspectorCaracal@tootplanet.space And I think you're ignoring the fact that I do actually believe conservativism as a philosophy is bigoted by virtue of the fact that it seeks to disconnect the circumstances of a person's birth from the reasons why that person may be struggling later in life. It inverts cause and effect, assumes success must be the result of hard work, and uses systemic lack of minority market successes as justification for its social positions.
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@InspectorCaracal@tootplanet.space If you can think of a model of fiscal conservativism that doesn't fit that model, I'm happy to explore it, but I can't think of one myself and I don't think it's my obligation to justify such a position. And "don't spend money on programs I don't like" means "don't help people I don't think should be helped" when you scratch beneath the surface, so A) no I don't think it fits all that many people, and B) I think they're a lot more equal than you do.
@InspectorCaracal@tootplanet.space In other words, there _is_ a correlation, and a strong one, between fiscal conservativism and social conservativism. It's just not one that most fiscal conservatives study very hard, because doing so would fly in the face of one of fiscal conservativism's central tenets. That doesn't mean the link isn't there, just that it isn't studied.
@InspectorCaracal@tootplanet.space Fiscal conservativism doesn't exist in a vacuum, though; it assumes rational actors in an unbiased market, neither of which actually exist. Fiscal conservativism simply ignores the real-world implications of unequal opportunity that are the results of systemic bias, and it treats human experiences as fungible from a dollar-value perspective, which also isn't real and is pretty gross, when you think about it.
@InspectorCaracal@tootplanet.space At best, conservativism seems forever to want to find some point in history at which we can draw a line and say, "everything afterwards is your responsibility," with no thought given of how the events prior may have destabilized the present.
Mind you, the liberal story seems to be to find a point in the future and draw the same line, as distinct from being aware that this will forever be an ongoing process.
@InspectorCaracal@tootplanet.space Increasingly, however, I'm convinced that "conservative" carries an encoded bigotry, or at the very least an implicit support for institutionalized discrimination. It may not extend to the individual level -- conservative people are not themselves inherently bigoted -- but more and more conservativism rejects any attempt to point at systemic bias as a cause of any individual lack of success, but then draws broad conclusions about those who don't succeed.
@witchfynder_finder @viciousviscosity@cybre.space Fair point. I still have times where I wonder where to put them.
Iron (Bodies)
@KoBunny I have them, pet; they're in my purse. Yesterday I got to work and walked onto a string of meetings, so my morning got disrupted and I forgot to take them. I have a reminder in my daily check-in app but it can't compensate for "checked without doing the thing." That's just habit. Thank you for offering, though. You're so well-trained and well-behaved.
@witchfynder_finder I'm guessing about a month to start wondering how I lived without it.
@Soreth You have friends here. *offers hugs*
@LogicalDash@cybre.space Well, no, but consider the different levels of engagement that "deciding it's good" takes between, say, a novelist, a game designer, and an artist, and ask if it's fair that friends engaged in different art forms should expect different levels of support from you.
I can't tell you what the right answer is. I can only talk about my experiences as a novelist.
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@rey @icefox Also, I don't care if you study it, read about it, or write academically on it, but if you espouse it or advocate for it, you are inherently engaging in an act of bullying and emotional assault. There is no value-neutral promotion of fascism. The subject matter cannot -- should not -- be divorced from its consequences, and shutting that down isn't censorship; it's self-defense.
US Pol, an ask for some armchair activism
hey folks if you got a moment and are comfortable doing so join me in filling in some info to tell Starbucks not to sponsor a Betsy DeVos fundraiser - they can't court billionaires who are homophobic and transphobic and also claim to host a safe space for LGBT+ folks
http://act.fusewashington.org/letter/StarbucksDevosWPC2017/?source=FuseFacebook
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