All right, I gotta ask.

Are there any fellow Windows users out there who actually use e-mail services other than one of the web-client-based ones? What do you use for a mail client in Windows? I'm presently using FossaMail, a no-longer-developed fork of Thunderbird, and while it works well enough for now, I'm wondering if it's time I moved to something else, but I don't know just what is worth moving to.

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@ElectricKeet I'm still using regular Thunderbird, and it's... functional for what I need it for. I could never quite get used to web interfaces. Too many things already /are/ just web pages these days.

@emanate I'm okay with web interfaces, but I'm really looking for something that'll let me get at my own IMAP server on Prisma – you know, where my electrickeet.com addresses are. If there's a nice, simple "download this, run these two or three commands, connect to this URL, Bob's your uncle" web client for IMAP, I could see dropping my native e-mail client altogether. I mean, I don't use the native clients for Telegram or Slack 'cause they work just fine or better in my browser!

@ElectricKeet When I cared to, I either just used Thunderbird or Outlook. Mostly because the worked good enough for my purposes and I didn't have any special requirements for interface or fonts beyond what they were capable of. Of the 2, I actually preferred Outlook just because the interface was the same as what I had to use for work, so my brain didn't have to work as hard. YMMV

@kelseyhusky I'm loath to take on anything further from Microsoft, but I might re-open that option if nothing else pans out.

@ElectricKeet I gave up on finding a decent mail client on Windows. Honestly I think that was one of the main reasons I embraced OS X so much. The stock mail app is the best I've ever used

@mawr @ElectricKeet I... may have a Bad Idea, but I want to test it before I advocate for it. If I'm right, I want to at least be able to help unfuck it if I lead you astray.

@mawr @ElectricKeet KMail in a VM. I've been having enough problems with Firefox eating more memory than I want to give it that isolating it to a VM would give me an additional tool for limiting its resource-hogging potential. I can't find a good Windows tool that's not proprietary or expensive. And I'm almost ready to cut the cord with Windows again. Not sure right now what I'm missing that I can't put in a Windows VM, so... this may be a step back towards a Linux laptop.

@literorrery @ElectricKeet TBH, if I weren't so enamored and familiar with OS X as a user interface at this point, I almost definitely would have made the switch to Linux by now.

Windows started applying all the worst lessons the Apple camp had to offer, and they don't seem too interested in changing course. :(

@mawr @literorrery I keep trying, but getting Linux running properly on the Surface Pro 3 takes a level of knowledge I don't have about how to make a Linux system happy. I always manage to break these things horribly. At least with Windows I know a few ways to patch around shit.

If I really made a proper go at switching on my desktop – especially if I could set up a Win7 VM for the stuff I use that I can't just swap off of that easily....

*sighs* I know this will end in tears.

@ElectricKeet @literorrery @mawr I'm running Linux on a laptop that does essentially terminals and chrome. My win desktop does VMWare, ida pro, and a bunch of solver jobs. Both of them use thunderbird. It sucks but it integrates gpg and that's all I care about :/

If I were cool I'd still be using mutt. I don't know if that integrates gpg but it couldn't be hat hard?

The masochists I know email from emacs.

IMO as a kernel dev; there are no good operating systems, but android is a bad one

@CeruleanK I've ended up sticking with Thunderbird/FossaMail for now. It really does turn out to be about the best option.

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