today we learned: there are people out there who find a 15" laptop to be too big
we do not comprehend this mentality, 15" is too *small*, we need a 17" one minimum (and i don't think they come bigger)
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oh yeah phone calls, music, solitaire, and occasionally reading up on random interests on wikipedia, forgot that last one
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@noiob that's just too small
the vaio (why is it mirrored by the way?) could be a good phone form factor though, i miss having a physical keyboard on our phone
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@Felthry I dunno it's just from image search. Pretty sure the Vaio runs Windows 7
@Felthry also phones with keyboards have even less screen real estate and you can't swipe
@noiob that's why you have it do this, full size screen and you still get a keyboard
why did they stop making these, we had one of these for years and loved it
also we barely even know what "swipe" means in this context so that doesn't matter to us
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why did they stop making these
no one bought them
also we barely even know what "swipe" means in this context
on many soft keyboards you can just swipe from letter to letter and it'll figure out the word, it's amazing for one-handed typing
@noiob they're exactly the kind of phone we want and i want a new one like that
and yeah we've seen people using things like that, it does Not agree with the way we think about typing
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@noiob oh hey that one actually supports CDMA networks, it might be possible to use it on verizon in the US
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@noiob concerned about the "preorder" button with a "shipping in february 2022" though. that was two months ago, it's not really a preorder anymore
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@Felthry it's an enthusiast phone for a tiny market
@noiob why is it that we keep having to go to high-end niche products for what we consider basic needs
we also had to get a fancy gaming laptop just to get one that didn't have those awful tiny arrow keys
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@Felthry seems like US carriers won't support it anyways https://community.fxtec.com/topic/3513-time-to-take-action-us-carrier-whitelisting-verizon-and-att/
@noiob why does everything have to be terrible
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@Felthry well, I'd argue that most people actually like the standard glass rectangle phone. I sure do
@Felthry though you did remind me that I should really look for a classic Nokia communicator to add to my phone collection
@noiob why can't they at least provide *something* for people who don't
why do all the US carriers have to lock everything down to their "approved" list of devices
why can we not connect the devices we want to use and use them
why do phones have to be made so expensive and fragile
why can't tech be more accessible, both in the disability sense and the financial sense
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why can't they at least provide something for people who don't
the things that sell well are the ones that appeal to the largest number of people
why do all the US carriers have to lock everything down to their "approved" list of devices
I genuinely don't understand that, that's a really bad decision
why do phones have to be made so expensive and fragile
they're tiny relatively high-powered computers that are trying to have the most screen per body
@noiob i don't need a phone to be anywhere near as high-powered as they are, and we don't care if it's thick and chunky, hell we'd prefer that, so it doesn't feel like it's going to just break if we drop it from a height of more than one inch
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@noiob why did firefox have to break all their old extensions and make it so that a feature we rely upon is literally impossible to implement in an extension for current firefox
why do websites have to keep breaking compatibility with waterfox classic, the only way we know of to continue using the old extensions
why can't people consider accessibility and customizability in anything when it comes to tech
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why did firefox have to break all their old extensions and make it so that a feature we rely upon is literally impossible to implement in an extension for current firefox
because the old extension system was frankly, unsustainable. They had to ditch it to be able to have the browser keep up with Chrome
why do websites have to keep breaking compatibility with waterfox classic
that's on waterfox classic
@Felthry I have a friend who uses their phone for almost everything and keeps extolling the virtues of it and it drives me up the wall lol. I have a 17" laptop too and even then it feels so cramped compared to my three-monitor desktop setup.
@Trinket yeah we occasionally wish we had a second monitor but there's no good way to do that with a laptop
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@Felthry I used to have a relatively giant 21" HP thing, the loss of big laptops is a travesty
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@Felthry honestly i'm in this category, i have a big one for games, but the experience of actually using it for anything else i would want to do on a laptop is awful and i'd massively prefer one i can move around providing it at least has a decently sized keyboard - it's the reason my 11" tablet + keyboard is my primary "laptop"
@Dex perfectly valid--we have different use cases and different preferences! we like large screens that give us plenty of room to have a bunch of windows open and stuff, personally
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this came up when talking to @noiob about mobile devices and learning that we have a very very different relationship with them
we can't stand using a phone for anything other than phone calls, music, and solitaire, it's way too small and you can't have multiple windows open at once (even if the OS allows it it's not usable on such a small screen)
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