today we learned: there are people out there who find a 15" laptop to be too big
we do not comprehend this mentality, 15" is too *small*, we need a 17" one minimum (and i don't think they come bigger)
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@noiob that's just too small
the vaio (why is it mirrored by the way?) could be a good phone form factor though, i miss having a physical keyboard on our phone
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@Felthry I dunno it's just from image search. Pretty sure the Vaio runs Windows 7
@Felthry also phones with keyboards have even less screen real estate and you can't swipe
@noiob that's why you have it do this, full size screen and you still get a keyboard
why did they stop making these, we had one of these for years and loved it
also we barely even know what "swipe" means in this context so that doesn't matter to us
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why did they stop making these
no one bought them
also we barely even know what "swipe" means in this context
on many soft keyboards you can just swipe from letter to letter and it'll figure out the word, it's amazing for one-handed typing
@noiob they're exactly the kind of phone we want and i want a new one like that
and yeah we've seen people using things like that, it does Not agree with the way we think about typing
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@noiob oh hey that one actually supports CDMA networks, it might be possible to use it on verizon in the US
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@noiob concerned about the "preorder" button with a "shipping in february 2022" though. that was two months ago, it's not really a preorder anymore
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@noiob why is it that we keep having to go to high-end niche products for what we consider basic needs
we also had to get a fancy gaming laptop just to get one that didn't have those awful tiny arrow keys
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@Felthry seems like US carriers won't support it anyways https://community.fxtec.com/topic/3513-time-to-take-action-us-carrier-whitelisting-verizon-and-att/
@noiob why does everything have to be terrible
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@Felthry well, I'd argue that most people actually like the standard glass rectangle phone. I sure do
@Felthry though you did remind me that I should really look for a classic Nokia communicator to add to my phone collection
@noiob why can't they at least provide *something* for people who don't
why do all the US carriers have to lock everything down to their "approved" list of devices
why can we not connect the devices we want to use and use them
why do phones have to be made so expensive and fragile
why can't tech be more accessible, both in the disability sense and the financial sense
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why can't they at least provide something for people who don't
the things that sell well are the ones that appeal to the largest number of people
why do all the US carriers have to lock everything down to their "approved" list of devices
I genuinely don't understand that, that's a really bad decision
why do phones have to be made so expensive and fragile
they're tiny relatively high-powered computers that are trying to have the most screen per body
@noiob i don't need a phone to be anywhere near as high-powered as they are, and we don't care if it's thick and chunky, hell we'd prefer that, so it doesn't feel like it's going to just break if we drop it from a height of more than one inch
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@noiob why did firefox have to break all their old extensions and make it so that a feature we rely upon is literally impossible to implement in an extension for current firefox
why do websites have to keep breaking compatibility with waterfox classic, the only way we know of to continue using the old extensions
why can't people consider accessibility and customizability in anything when it comes to tech
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why did firefox have to break all their old extensions and make it so that a feature we rely upon is literally impossible to implement in an extension for current firefox
because the old extension system was frankly, unsustainable. They had to ditch it to be able to have the browser keep up with Chrome
why do websites have to keep breaking compatibility with waterfox classic
that's on waterfox classic
@noiob well why didn't they replace the old extension system with one that still allows extensions to open files on the computer, because that's literally the only thing that's keeping us from switching to a more compatible browser
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@Felthry …open files on the computer?
@noiob so you can double click a downloaded file in a bottom-of-the-window statusbar and have it open as though you'd double clicked it in the folder in your file manager
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@noiob with the new extension framework doing that has to open a modal window asking if you want to open the file and yes we want to open the file that's why we double clicked on the thing
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@noiob i just want things to stop breaking and changing things that were the way we liked them and i want things to be the way we're used to them being
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@noiob sorry i think i'm having a bit of a depression spiral here
it feels like everything we use keeps being changed to be less usable to us and there's nothing we can do to keep it working how we like it other than try to keep the existing things going as long as possible
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@Felthry because computers are awful and we should just stopt trying to make them work
also the perfect phone was the 2009 Palm Pre (and its direct successors), everyone else is just chasing its shadow
@noiob apology accepted
sorry i didn't make it clearer sooner that that was happening
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@Felthry oh, I think we talked about this. Are you that determined to stay on a Firefox fork? Chrome and Edge have their downloads at the bottom
@noiob i want absolutely nothing to do with chrome or edge, firefox isn't great either but at least it's not google or microsoft
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@Felthry it's an enthusiast phone for a tiny market