@noiob that's just too small
the vaio (why is it mirrored by the way?) could be a good phone form factor though, i miss having a physical keyboard on our phone
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@Felthry I dunno it's just from image search. Pretty sure the Vaio runs Windows 7
@Felthry also phones with keyboards have even less screen real estate and you can't swipe
@noiob that's why you have it do this, full size screen and you still get a keyboard
why did they stop making these, we had one of these for years and loved it
also we barely even know what "swipe" means in this context so that doesn't matter to us
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why did they stop making these
no one bought them
also we barely even know what "swipe" means in this context
on many soft keyboards you can just swipe from letter to letter and it'll figure out the word, it's amazing for one-handed typing
@noiob they're exactly the kind of phone we want and i want a new one like that
and yeah we've seen people using things like that, it does Not agree with the way we think about typing
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@noiob oh hey that one actually supports CDMA networks, it might be possible to use it on verizon in the US
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@noiob concerned about the "preorder" button with a "shipping in february 2022" though. that was two months ago, it's not really a preorder anymore
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@Felthry it's an enthusiast phone for a tiny market
@noiob why is it that we keep having to go to high-end niche products for what we consider basic needs
we also had to get a fancy gaming laptop just to get one that didn't have those awful tiny arrow keys
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@Felthry seems like US carriers won't support it anyways https://community.fxtec.com/topic/3513-time-to-take-action-us-carrier-whitelisting-verizon-and-att/
@noiob why does everything have to be terrible
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@Felthry well, I'd argue that most people actually like the standard glass rectangle phone. I sure do
why can't they at least provide something for people who don't
the things that sell well are the ones that appeal to the largest number of people
why do all the US carriers have to lock everything down to their "approved" list of devices
I genuinely don't understand that, that's a really bad decision
why do phones have to be made so expensive and fragile
they're tiny relatively high-powered computers that are trying to have the most screen per body
@noiob i don't need a phone to be anywhere near as high-powered as they are, and we don't care if it's thick and chunky, hell we'd prefer that, so it doesn't feel like it's going to just break if we drop it from a height of more than one inch
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