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@typhlosion @rey i wonder if there's a common feature that golf, tmnt, and micro mages use that none of the other ones do
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the internet loves frog chair, but have they considered frog trash can?
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@rainwarrior @typhlosion also yeah we only *know* of the composite-on-the-board being a thing on the snes and i think genesis? genesis might have just been chroma/luma on the board though, not rgb
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@rainwarrior @typhlosion i am surprised at the lack of gold plating but i guess when you're an engineer who works mostly on one-off custom test equipment with a relatively large budget and no need to think about profit margin, you get used to always going for the gold plating
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@rainwarrior @typhlosion oh yeah that's not far off from what i was thinking of
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@rainwarrior @typhlosion ah yeah at that many pins the discrepancy adds up

2.5 mm *is* a standard size, but an uncommon one; digikey doesn't have any 72-pin card edge connectors in that pitch

there are a couple companies out there that will do custom connectors, though the minimum order quantity is usually in the hundreds or thousands
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@rainwarrior @typhlosion oh, but you'd need to do something about the spacer

i would probably try mounting two standard connectors on a PCB, maybe? Perhaps with 3d-printed supports
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@rainwarrior @typhlosion it's just two card edge connectors connected with a ribbon cable right? should be pretty easy to make, card edge connectors are cheap (though gold plated ones obviously a little more expensive)

i suspect it's going to be a standard spacing too
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@rainwarrior @typhlosion Shaving off a few pennies!

your typical console even has to mix RGB signals into composite, too--you could have just output the RGB signals, but that was never common as an input on tvs (maybe outside of europe? I know the SCART connector had dedicated rgb pins but i dunno how many tvs supported that mode)

that's why RGB or YPbPr (composite) mods are so easy on a lot of systems
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@rainwarrior @typhlosion aaa now i'm feeling embarrassed, i was pretty confident in most of that but apparently we just got it from some who-knows-where unreliable source
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@rainwarrior @typhlosion you definitely have to gold plate the cartridges yeah, edge connectors won't last very long if they don't have a hard gold plating
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@rainwarrior @typhlosion clearly i don't know as much about the nes specifically as i'd thought!

gold plating on these types of connectors is kinda the standard, i'd be surprised if nintendo didn't use it
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@rainwarrior @typhlosion I might have the NES and Famicom models confused! I don't know why they would drop composite out though, composite was the better quality option at the time
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@rainwarrior @typhlosion oh yeah, recapping might cut down on those lines a bit

you get those a lot more with RF or composite output too, just because those are lower bandwidth
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@typhlosion @rey huh, that's a bit weird

i'd have to think on what that could be

could you get some photos of the inside of the nes?
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@rainwarrior @typhlosion Disabling the lockout is usually a good mod to do anyway, the 10NES will sometimes just start doing its reset loop even on an otherwise perfectly functional and legitimate game
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@typhlosion @rey aw, unfortunate

could be something wrong with the cartridge itself other than just the contacts

fortunately it's just golf, I suppose? Not exactly a rare game, checking ebay it looks like it goes for $5-6 plus another $5-6 in shipping
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@typhlosion @rey Make sure you figure out what model your NES is before getting the casemod, the case might have different mounting points and holes for connectors between models
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@typhlosion @rey well congratulations! your first Electronics Thing
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@typhlosion @rey your radio picks up a bit more static
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