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@CoronaCoreanici I am pretty sure that's just Maximum Furry.

Also I'd prefer a wolf dick, in this as in all things. ;)

@CoronaCoreanici If I ever become an old crusty furry, please hit me over the head with the biggest Bad Dragon toy you can find, until I stop, one way or another. XD

@indi @Ferrovore My personal favorite Fred Patten story is actually personal. Fred reviewed one of my books, and it's proudly erotic in a lot of places. His review was, almost to a fault, "I skipped all the sex scenes because they don't interest me, but the plot doesn't make sense. Making the sex part of the plot is a bad plan because then I can't skip it and still understand what's going on."

And now you know why I don't trust Fred Patten as an editor.

@literorrery @Ferrovore YUUUUUP that's the main story I was thinking of. Yup yup yup.

@Ferrovore Yeah, come to think of it, more to the point this reads like the "but is it SCIENCE FICTION?!?!?!" hand-wringing that still comes up like every time a fiction podcast posts something the least bit not-starships-or-cyborgs. Y'know, the same smokescreen that certain folks use when they try and stuff award ballot boxes away from diverse writers. 9.9

(Also, loving how Patten there is using 'funny-animal' as a descriptive term in fiction tropes as if that had any currency since like 1994)

@Ferrovore

This has basically been Fred Patten's song and dance ever since then; I am not joking, his name is the first one that comes up in my head of 'who from 80's fandom is still active today?'

And yeah, the whole objection is ill-defined and reeks of the "soft SF is any SF I don't like" tendencies that were just... everywhere in that fandom.

I'm sure @literorrery has plenty of Fred Patten stories she can share; not sure how much alcohol will be required. ;)

@Ferrovore

So, fandom-historical context to stuff I mostly heard about and only barely caught the tail end of when I was lurking on usenet in high school: Back when certain folks in furry were doing their utmost to get it recognized as a significant and distinct SF subgenre, the major hobby-horse of Serious Furry Writers was "furries need to be more than just be humans in animal suits". Like, that phrase _verbatim_.

@Ferrovore OMG I read that in the voice of the crustiest, beardiest oldschool-fandom-dude ever.

*checks byline* Oh! I was right! :D

@zebratron2084 Yeah, self-loathing is a thing too; see also the comment at the bottom that mentions that regarding the Burned Fur cofounder not otherwise mentioned in the article.

Such a good article:

Why Nerds Hate Furries:

theculturalbarxist.wordpress.c

"in furry, where the fandom was uniquely focused on giving free reign to individual expression and where there’s no one single corporate canon, these same anti-LGBTQ arguments were a harder sell. Without the psychological divide between creators and consumers, no official gatekeeper could declare something to be incompatible with 'furry canon.'"

(h/t @xurnami )

weird pre-bed thoughts 

I think the reason I'm still stuck waist-deep in Furry Bullshit is because it's the closest thing to what I actually want: a stable culture that understands the editing, proliferating and fracturing of identity as normal due course. I'm tired of having to act like my own tiny fortress in an endless field of tiny fortresses! I want to pull my architecture apart into gooey 5D cubist shit and show it off from all angles! I want to know emotions they haven't given names to yet.

@vahnj Sorry, they deleted all my CSS knowledge when I changed job titles. ;)

j/k I can probably help some, buuuut um not tonight probably. Since I only saw this now. c.c

@Kistaro Yeah, it boggles my mind that I remember going to bowling alleys in the 80's as a tiny child and it was all already automated scorekeeping and setup. Like how did that even work then.

@victim_of_changes@witches.town Oooh very cool! Thank you! :D

Running 

@TheBodan Congraaaaats 🎉 🎊 🎉

@LilFluff@tootplanet.space It's true!

Real talk though: that "shark" is adorable. ;)

@thefishcrow You'd think folks could just remember "wolf but pointier" but I t was a word before that and you otally can't tell the diff from any of these pics alone.

Interesting thing learned from looking at old con badges. No one knew how to draw coyotes in the early 2000s. :P

@victim_of_changes@witches.town Actually that's a bad example of the middle checkpoint!

Full list is:
Basic wolf (pictured)
Wolf/coyote
Coyote but gray
Name change; synthetic but realistic-looking coyote with blue-glow markings (should have been pictured previously, attached here now)
More glow colors (pictured)
More realistic coyote coloration, with colorful glow
Coyote/otter, as above
As above but obviously synthetic/plush (pictured)

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